Monday, April 11, 2011

Pesach another meaningless Jewish ritual or a time to reignite our sense of social conscience

I love Pesach it’s my favourite Festival, I enjoy everything about it I think it just oozes

coolness. I mean you get to spend time with friends and family in an intimate setting around

the Seder table, I know in my house we often invite people we don’t see to often so its really

a special time. Look I think the whole preparation for the festival isn’t always that great i.e.

all the cleaning out and change over stuff but it all adds to the sanctity of the festival I guess.

Rabbi’s have an absolute field day at this time of the year. Pesach is filled with symbolisms.

Take for instance the dry and unleavened bread we eat i.e. matzah. I’m sure we all know the

teaching which says that Chometz (normal risen bread and bread based products) is a symbol

of arrogance because it’s risen and filled out like the Yetzer Harah (Or Evil Inclination)

which is bloated through its arrogance of joy when people do wrong. On the other hand

Matzah is lowly bread which symbolizes piety and simpleness. This lowly bread symbolizes

the Jewish people when they left Egypt according to our Sages, and is called a bread of our

affliction. The broader understanding of this period is a time of national introspection and

remembrance. We go into depth about our suffering and the miraculous redemption from

bondage in Egypt. However as Jews we do not just kvetch about our suffering and pain, we

also give praise for our redemption and also look forward to a final future redemption.

This being said I think that a fundamental part of this festival and especially the Seder part

have become drowned in petty worrying about measurements and sizes of this thing or that.

Many Haggadah’s have pages on the fluid ounce requirements for the cups of wines, the

amount of inches of matzah and maror that one requires. I am in no way saying these should

be ignored or dismissed but I feel that the emphasis is being misplaced with ritual over

meaning.

The Seder has the potential to be the most spiritually and emotionally up lifting experience

not only for the little kids who get to sing the Manishitana section of the Seder but for the

adults as well. I know in certain sects they dress up and put on plays to live up the Seder

experience. This is fantastic but again it’s all symbolic for me the essence of Pesach is the

concept of justice and dignity. The Hebrew people’s who originally fled to Egypt due to

the drought in Canaan and the difficult living conditions, were refugees seeking a better life

for themselves and their families. They were in later generations oppressed and turned into

slaves. Their dignity was undermined in many ways as the Haggadah says.

The essential message which I think we should gain from Pesach – besides the pounds from

some of those measurements especially those of the Chazon Ish – is the central importance

of human dignity and the fact that the Jewish people should be ultra-sensitive to the plight of

others especially those who have become refugees due to circumstances in their own country.

South African Jews have an obligation to highlight the suffering of the oppressed people of

Zimbabwe, Swaziland, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, and the like who have fled

despotic tyrannical regimes in some cases and others who have just fled to find a better life

for themselves and their families.

It is no co-incidence that soon after Pesach we will be Commemorating Yom HaShoah –

Holocaust Memorial Day – we see that in the not too distant past the Jewish people suffered

the most egregious systematic mass murdering in recorded history. We rightly ask where

the world was. We are rightly given no definitive answer. We however need to ask where

our voices today when thousands of African Refugees are fleeing Darfur, Zimbabwe, Libya,

Ivory Coast , Libya, and so on. It is not our task alone to raise these issues but I feel that

South African Jews should be highlighting the plight of fellow Africans in any way we can.

I feel that Moroccan Jews although small should be highlighting the plight of the people of

the Occupied Western Sahara which is illegally and brutally Occupied by the Moroccans

for more than 30 years, Jews in Europe should be arguing strenuously for the rights of

refugees that have fled to Europe especially those fleeing the crisis now that has engulfed

large swathes of North Africa. We the children of the freed slaves of ancient Egypt and the

children of those survived years of discrimination, anti-Semitism, pogroms and the Holocaust

of Nazi Europe should be aware and vocal on ensuring the rights and dignities of others.

This for me is the real message which we should take out of Pesach and one which too often

is overlooked or totally misunderstood by us and more so by many of our Rabbi’s!

I wish you all Chag Kasher VeSameich and meaningful Sedorim.

By Ilan Solomons

SAUJS National African Affairs Liaison Officer

23 comments:

  1. V Interesting. We should all stand up for refugees and the oppressed more!!!!! Can Gentiles like me attend a Pesach meal?

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  2. Yes most definitely, for sure! On Pesach we especially invite in "strangers" or additional guests we start the evening by making the statement " All those that are hungry come in"!

    If you would like to attend a meal over this period e-mail nationalchair@saujs.co.za or call our national religious affairs officer who will make a plan for you his number is 072 238 3331 and his name is Daniel Carr.

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  3. Daniel Carr said Wow. I haven't read it, but the title is a most wonderful example of false dichotomy.
    Tuesday at 12:47am · LikeUnlike · 3 peopleJonti Hetz, Josh Gelbo Marcus and Gilad גִּלְעָד Amar like this.

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  4. Ilan Solomons said How so?
    Tuesday at 10:45am

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  5. Daniel Carr said You imply (actually it's pretty explicit) that Pesach can only be either "another meaningless Jewish ritual" or "a time to reignite our sense of social conscience". (I realise that I basically just copied the title. Totally explicit false d...ichotomy. Not even an attempt at valid argument).

    You exclude any other option which is, by definition, a false dichotomy. Hence, an excellent example. Clear. Obvious. Practical.

    Be careful, kids, of those logical fallacies! They cost lives.See More
    Tuesday at 2:32pm · LikeUnlike · 1 person

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  6. Ilan Solomons It can only be one or the other. How is that false? Tuesday at 8:21pm

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  7. Daniel Carr said Don't feed the trolls, Josh :P
    Wednesday at 3:50pm

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  8. Ilan Solomons Yes josh it what else can it be?
    14 hours ago

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  9. Josh Gelbo Marcus To be fair, anyone not nit-picking would have assumed that Ilan wasn't giving the only 2 options. He was simply describing how, on the one hand, one may experience Pesach as a meaningless ritual, whereas, on another hand but not the only ot...her hand... It may not be mathematical, but it's not necessarily wrong or even manipulative - that's debatable. However, Ilan, by arguing the way you have you've made your position completely ridiculous. To answer your question, Pesach could be a recognition of God's commitment to the Jews, a time to appreciate the uniqueness of the nation, I could go on for a while - one might even argue that it teaches mistrust of other nations, which may be completely contrary to your point. Carr, your advice not to feed the trolls was probably good, but I'm fond of this troll :)13 hours ago

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  10. Daniel Carr Not true at all, Josh. I wasn't nit-picking at all. I'm really not that pedantic. That title is very clearly a false dichotomy. There are ways to phrase it that aren't. It's not the reader's job to fill in the logical and linguistic gaps in... a piece of writing, and I'd expect you, of all people, to know that.

    I excised a much more comprehensive list from my initial comment for brevity. (But your last option doesn't count; the title asks "what is the purpose/meaning of Pesach?", not "what is its effect?")

    It was definitely good. So, if you know that Ilan is trolling, and he knows that he's trolling, and now he knows that you're aware that he's trolling (and thus trolling yourself), the two of you are actually just going through the motions of argument? (http://youtu.be/kQFKtI6gn9Y)

    Enjoy that. I (bli neder) bow out...See More
    10 hours ago

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  11. Josh Gelbo Marcus As I said, it's not mathematical; whether or not it's technically a false dichotomy is not what I was commenting on.
    about an hour ago

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  12. Josh Gelbo Marcus My last option was that the purpose of Pesach is to teach mistrust.

    And yes, we're just going through the motions of an argument :)
    about an hour ago

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  13. Ilan Solomons said Hi guys, I have not been able to comment properly for the last few days. Carr again you show that you are a rabbinic apologists of note! You just pick on the title and dismiss the real content of the article.

    Obviously their are many things one could get out of Pesach, the question is what is the true essence of this festival? You see it as another religious festival that you can throw out midrashim, some gemorah, kabbalah, the Sifrei, Vilna Gaon, etc, and other bearded creatures. Pesach is an incredibly deep festival or chag that deals with a heart wrenching tail of Hebrew Slaves and their miraculous journey to freedom or emnacipation as a people.

    The question is what does this experience teach us? I actually lefet out of this article on purpose - which in hind sight I regret - the current pesecution the Jewish people are inflicting on the Palestinain people, in the form of the illegal occupation, siege, land grabs, and so on. We should be horrified and disgusted by this behaviour to put it mildly!

    As Jews we should have a heightened sense of justice and dignity, not less. It is unfortunatley due to people and rabbi's like you that the sense of Jewish Justice and the ability to look beyond our own teiglach that has contaminated and infected the Jewish sense of sociual conscience. Its very sad to see this, I expect more of practicing Jewish people and to make light of this topic of the re-awakening of Jewish sensitivity at the time of Pesach is highly disturbing indeed! :-(
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  14. Josh Gelbo Marcus said If you are to throw out the midrashim, etc. all you are left with is the Tanach, from which it seems (unless you decide to ignore what's written in that as well) that the Jews are a barbaric, land-conquering nation who will commit multiple ...genocides in order to get what they want. Not quite a nation of social conscience. There are places which show some sort of kindness to other nations, but when you compare them to the genocides of Yehoshua and Shoftim, they pale in comparison.
    You, Ilan, are just picking your own values and pretending that they fit into Judaism, while discarding major protagonists of Jewish history as "bearded creatures". You take offence that religious people disregard enlightened Jewry while you disregard everything but. I'm not diminishing your "right" to that opinion; however, I feel it is highly inaccurate to regard that as Judaism.See More
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  15. Ilan Solomons said Josh I agree the history of the Jewish people is not blemish free we strive for perfection - yet we are far from so - and we have committed what would considered to day as major human rights violations. However Judaism is intrinsically a progressive faith, and we have developed and progressed with the times.

    I have huge respect for Rabbi's the beards that hold back on the progressive faith of Judaism is what I detest! Judaism is about humanity and dignity, there are many examples of this, one that comes to mind is that there are rules of battle and not destroying fruit trees, polluting the water around the besieged city, etc... There are many examples. If we choose to only embrace the negatives in our history we will not develop and this is not in keeping with the true spirit of Judaism!
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  16. Josh Marcus said The Torah doesn't see the genocides as blemishes, but as commands and victories. One can progress or one can completely ignore the Torah's teachings in favour of society's values. My point though was, that while the Oral Torah allows for an... idea of the sort, the Written Torah is pretty cut and dry, and if you treat midrashim etc in the way that you do, you end up discarding the progressive aspect of Judaism. Then for you to come along and claim that your values are Jewish values is completely not in line with your Torah.See More
    April 15 at 11:48am

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  17. Ilan Solomons said Josh I need to clarify something here I never discarded these midrashim,kabbah, gemorah,etc! I was just saying originally that to just bring out these wonderful, Holy Scriptures, and explaining them in the course of the seder and not being ...moved to enhance social justice of the oppressed is the issue.

    Heaven Forbid that I would diminish or down play these fine works of our scholars in the Jewish faith, as an Orthodox Jew, this would be most absurd! All our texts are inherently progressive and this is what should be the focus, the issue of measurements, kazayits,kebaitzah, millim, etc should not be a distraction from the essence of Pesach and its true message and meaning! This is all I am sayingSee More
    April 15 at 2:53pm

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  18. Daniel Carr said I've been drawn in again. You guys brought it on yourselves. Sorry for the long delay (yom tov and all that...)
    If the technicality isn't the issue, what is? If you're saying that flagrant logical fallacies should be ignored because "we can ...figure it out" then I disagree. Particularly in the case of a "journalistic" effort, where the fallacy is employed as a rhetorical device to mislead people and/or make a point. I read the article, and didn't actually disagree with most of what it said, as I remember (it was shortly after commenting on the title), but it could have been titled "Some Additional Messages of Pesach", or something neutral like that. The title betrays the purpose. At least part of the purpose.
    I think that's a pretty difficult argument to make (that the whole festival exists only to teach mistrust). It's just not plausible. You might be able to argue that mistrust was baked in later.

    Ilan, at no point did I dismiss anything! I just subejcted myself to your grammar again, and I think you make some valid points. I still think it's unconscionable for an ostensibly frum Jew to use "Rabbinic apologist" as a slur, and claim that "The Rabbis" have missed the point. But that's not the point (directly).
    In my original comment, I tool issue with the title, and specified that that was the issue, and NOT the article. I dismissed nothing.

    I don't see it as "a chance to throw out . . .", I see it as an opportunity built-in to the universe to experience certain things, and really become in touch with certain aspects of reality. I think the only way to reach those things is to read and understand the very midrashim and gemorrahs, and halochos and meforshim you so disrespect, and certainly not to solipsistically interpret it as matching your personal issues. Sure, if it has meaning for you, take that, but not at the expense of a qualified and deep interpretation. Furthermore, the majority of the story is only known to you through midrashim, which you would know if you gave any respect to the Torah.

    I take it as a compliment that you consider me a Rabbi, but also as a sign of your own ignorance. I think it's very sad that you think it's a slur of some sort.

    As for the measurements and "not looking past our own teiglach", I agree that many people miss the point. Some might even have the title of Rabbi, but they're definitely not the same as "The Rabbis", whom you call "bearded creatures". The Vilna Gaon et al (no to mention tanaaim and amoraaim) understood not only the deeper relevance of Pesach, but also the deeper relevance of the measurements that so vex you. And not to see that is to miss the whole point of Torah.

    If you took your cues from their interpretations, you wouldn't need to come up with your own, and you would be assured of being correct, and you might even learn something. If your interpretations deviates from those already given (and it does. In the first place, the entire point -- and it's explicit in the story -- is that the oppression and emancipation of the Jews was different and distinct from any other in history, before or after), you're probably wrong, but you will very likely also find that some of the interpretations that are intuitive to you were already expressed hundreds or thousands of years ago.

    Again, if you'd actually READ those "holy texts"/writings of "bearded creatures" (which are they?) you might have some grasp of the fact that there is more to the celebration than what you see at face-value (which is as far as you're willing to look), and that some of the things you read into it (while possibly true in their own right) are incongruous with it.

    Thanks Josh, you made some eloquent points.See More
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  19. Daniel Carr said K, now really, I think I've said more than I should need to. But Ilan, please, if you don't want the third degree from me, don't tag me in your articles, because I take that as an indication that you want me to critically read them (which is the only way I know how to read). If you don't tag me, I'm less likely to comment. But I can't guarantee that I won't.
    Sunday at 4:48pm

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  20. Ilan Solomons said "Daniel look mate. I think we - myself and the others that read this piece on my facebook account and on the SAUJS Blog - gain tremendously from your insights which is exactly why I tagged you.

    The issue I too is that you were finiky about t...he title but failed to comment on the article in its entirety. I hear your point that you disagree with the title, and you have clarified this.

    I never called you a Rabbi mate, haha, I just called you a " Rabbinic Apologists" which means you try to apologize or justify the failures of the Rabbi's - of which there are too many to mention - and instead try to rationalise their failures.This is my issue. I understand you are alot more sensitive to critiques of the rabbinate as you come from a family of Rabbi's and we all know that your late Gran Father( Rabbi Goldfein) May he Rest in peace or as some like to say ZT"L, take your pick, was a Rosh Yeshiva.

    I although a practicing Orthodox Jew or as you like to say " frum jew", do not have the same Deification of the Rabbi's as you do, as I have seen their repeated failures even though they calim peity many are not Holy beyond the Teiglach caught in their beard hairs.

    Which is the essence of this piece the issue of symbolic rituals veruses true piety!"See More
    April 26 at 7:38pm

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  21. Daniel Carr said "I'm not gonna make the same arguments again, but in terms of the facts, I quote: "...due to people and rabbi's (sic) like you that...".
    Also in terms of factuality, I was very clear from my very first comment what I was commenting on.
    My taki...ng offence has nothing at all to do with any of my family, except insofar as they have taught me what Torah is and how to respect it.
    Finally, "Orthodox" and "frum" are not even remotely synonymous. It's a shame that so many conflate them. And I don't at all like to say "frum" (and "Orthodox" isn't my favourite either, having heard (at least) the first few seconds of Rav Gifter's shiur on "Diversity in Orthodoxy" given at the siyum of Daf Yomi in 1980somehting, I think.)"See More
    April 27 at 5:55pm

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  22. Ilan Solomons said Carr you still havent addressed the main issue of the blog piece which is the over concentration on petty measurements at the expense of true authentic jewish values!
    April 28 at 7:24pm

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  23. Daniel Carr said Of course I have! In a sentence: You assume, incorrectly, that the measurements are "petty" and assert, incorrectly and rather hubristically, that your interpretation represents "true authentic Jewish values" more than does that of chazal o...r any of the rishonim or acharonim.

    To be fair, I don't disagree at all that many people do lose the entire meaning and purpose of Torah and Mitzvos by over-focusing on the minutiae of halocha, but I'm very certain that they're not the people you think (or at least, not all the people you think).See More
    April 29 at 12:26am

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